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Jane Cobbald: Conversation with Frau Ingeborg Schauberger

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Walter said help "Nature, help the trees. We have to have many more trees, more woodland. The first task for the woodland is to bring the water into existence."

Frau Schauberger is the widow of Walter, Viktor Schauberger’s son. She still lives in the family home in Bad Ischl, upper Austria. Each time I saw her she was wearing the traditional Austrian clothes, the close fitting tailored jacket and a dirndl skirt. Although she is less than five feet tall, she has a powerful presence and shows a sharp intelligence. She speaks some English, more than my German, so our conversation was mainly in English. She was concerned that she would not be able to express herself well in English, so at each meeting we had an interpreter sitting with us. At the time of our conversation, she was 89 years old.

 

 

 

 

 

Schauberger on fluoridation

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from the book Living Energies by Coats & Schauberger

"...Artificial fluoridation of the water supplies is another pernicious process with equally alarming consequences for the drinker. There are two different forms of fluoride, one of which, calcium fluoride, is naturally occurring. Where present in the groundwater or wells it has been observed that the teeth of those who drink such water are much stronger and less prone to caries. The other, sodium fluoride is not found naturally and is a poisonous by-product of aluminium smelting and used in insecticides.

Alex Schiffer - Joe Cell - Experimenters Guide to the Joe Cell

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Chapter 1.

" Since corrupt people unite amongst themselves to constitute a force, then honest people must do the same "

Count Leo N. Tolstoy.

Introduction.

by Alex Schiffer 
http://www.joecell.com.au/alexbook.html

Intention My intention ( to the best of my ability ) is to remove some of the mystery, secrets, guesswork and plain misinformation that surrounds the construction of the " cell ". The aim is to help the constructor make a cell in a laid out, step by step, method that I employ to make my own cells. My knowledge comes from making the cells. As I have built many working cells, this experience has given me the knowledge, not by guesswork or reading someone's book or listening to second or third hand " expert " opinions. I now pass this information on to you. and it will always stay as my opinion and information until you build your own cell. Only then will you know how to make a cell, and not before!

Joe In approximately 1992 a new form of a generator was constructed in Australia. In preparation for this book, I spoke to both the designer and his fiancee, regarding my wish to give him the due credits, etc., for his 7 years of work and cooperation with all involved parties. Unfortunately due to the lunatic fringe and money grabbers that dealt with him, this poor, victimised individual has decided to relinquish any further involvement with the cell that bears his name. So in respect to his wishes, he will simply be referred to as Joe. I would simply like to say, dear Joe, that if it was not for rare individuals like you, we the vast brainwashed majority, would never find the true beauties of Mother Nature's gifts.

It is now probably to late to save Mother Earth from the years of pollution and desecration caused by the thoughtless money-grabbing multinationals. As a species, we are unique. Even a little simple bird keeps its nest clean, yet we the most intelligent of creation, destroy our only home! Yet, individuals like Joe show us that there is a better way, a simple pure way, Nature's way. Without the benefit(?) of years of dogmatic mind shrinking education, Joe found, by intuition, how to ask Nature a question in such a way that it answered. The answer was a method of powering machinery without the use of our primary resources or the creation of pollution. This method is well known to the select few and the technology has been around for centuries. Joe has made a crude easy to build version of this generator. The generator is called a Joe cell.

Welcome to MERLib - Modern Energy Research Library

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MERLib is a website built to function as a study-tool for finding pertinent information on alternative energy technologies. We aim to present alternative and lesser known methods of viewing what electricity and energy are, and how to tap into the wheelworks of the universe in the way nature does it (or close to it). Intuitive persons such as Viktor Schauberger and Walter Russell figure heavily on this website. Their relation to Nikola Tesla, Ed Leedskalnin, Nathan Stubblefield, John Ernst Worrell Keely and Wilhelm Reich is something that will become more and more obvious to you as you proceed on your journey to find out how to tap the vast energy reservoir all around us.

Resonance is cited, over and over, in explanations of the devices and ideas in our Modern Energy Research Library.

It is now apparent that most things here on earth are done the wrong way, in a way which is rapidly destroying the whole planet, and since human life is interconnected with life on planet Earth, this state of imbalance is destroying us. The only solution is harmony with the universe. Harmony with the Universal Law. Harmony with creation, and through harmony with creation to harmony with the Creator.

I have an urgent request. If you have any copies of "Causes", "Energy Unlimited", "The Journal of Borderland Research", "Fulcrum", "Light Waves", "Implosion", "Infinite Energy" or others, please donate them to the MERLib Archive. Some of them might pop up on here later!

Self-organizing flow technique

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Self-organizing flow technique

Introduction
This report is an attempt to understand and learn from the ideas and inventions of the Austrian forester Viktor Schauberger. Viktor Schauberger already in the 1920s warned about environmental crisis, at a time at which it was not, as today, something recognized. During his lifetime, he encountered resistance and ridicule, and his perspective may still today be labelled as unconventional and unorthodox, although much of what he wrote about our handling of waters and forests today is more relevant than ever. As he wasn't an academic, but was more of a natural philosopher, he had trouble to communicate his ideas with contemporary scientists. In this report, we'll try to show how modern research in chaos and self-organizing systems give us a possibility to shed some new light on Vikor Schauberger, and perhaps establish a deeper understanding of the phenomena he described.

Viktor Schauberger
We will call our perspective self-organizing flow, so called since the technology described exploits the intrinsic order spontaneously created by a system, during the right conditions.

Such a view was advanced in the 1920s by the Austrian naturalist Viktor Schauberger (1). Schauberger was a forester and timber-floating expert. He was no academic, but he had a long tradition of studies of nature to rely on. He also had rich opportunities to study the processes of nature in untouched areas, when it came to the handling of watercourses and the quality of water. His approach was that man should study nature and learn from it, rather than trying to correct it --- a view that was rather controversial at his time (1). He noted that mankind had a developed technology for exploitation of water, but still knew very little of the processes of natural waters, and the laws for their behaviour in an untouched state.

Schauberger gave the following example: In a mountain stream he observed a trout which apparently stood still in the midst of rapidly streaming water. The trout merely manoeuvred slightly, looking rather free from effort. When it got alerted it fled against the stream --- not with it, which at first sight would have seemed to be more natural.

On some occasions a cauldron of warm water was poured into the stream, quite a long distance upstream from the fish, for a moment making the river water slightly warmer. As this water reached the fish, it could no longer sustain its position in the stream, but was swept away with the flowing water, not returning until later. From this experiment Schauberger concluded that temperature differences is of great importance in natural river systems. He even tried to copy the effect of the natural movements of the trout in a kind of turbine, which he coined trout turbine.

By studying the gills of the fish (1), Schauberger found what looked like guide vanes. These, he theorized, would guide streaming water in a vortex motion backwards. By creating a rotating flow, a pressure increase would result behind the fish, and a corresponding pressure decrease in front of it, which would help it to keep its place in the stream (2).

Dynamic Hydropower

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Josef Hasslberger
Rome, Italy
December 1993

http://www.hasslberger.com/tecno/tecno_2.htm

The "suction turbine" or "jet turbine" of Viktor Schauberger

Hydropower engineering, up to this day, is almost esclusively concerned with two variables, one being the altitude differential between head water and turbine and the other the quantity of water that can be brought to flow through the turbines.

A third important variable, the velocity of flow of water, is generally not thought to be important. It is taken into consideration only as the velocity resulting from the release of water pressure connected to and dependent on altitude differential but not as an important factor in its own right. In fact, current design of hydropower facilities normally excludes utilization of the dynamic energy potential inherent in the free flow of water. A dam destroys this natural energy potential by bringing the water from its dynamic state of flow to a static state, a complete absence of motion.

If we study the writings of Viktor Schauberger and Ludwig Herbrand, we find that the energy inherent in the free and unhindered flow of water may be potentially much greater than that obtainable from the exclusive use of pressure resulting from altitude differential.

A normal flow of water rather than an altitude-induced pressure, has been used in mills and old blacksmith hammerworks of the pre-industrial era.

Schauberger

In recent times, it was Viktor Schauberger, the Austrian inventor and genial observer of nature's ways who first advocated the use of increased water velocity rather than water pressure for the production of hydroelectric power. He obtained a patent for what he termed a jet turbine (Strahlturbine) as early as the year 1930. (1)

The principles used by Schauberger in order to increase water velocity were the jet configuration of the water inlet pipe and the promotion, by spiral ribbings on the inside of the jet, of a vortex motion of the water.

Schauberger's patent actually gives us two very important clues to innovative changes in hydropower technology.

The first one is, that a pipe configured as a funnel or jet will increase the velocity of the water's flow by restricting the space available in which the water may flow. This increase in velocity is especially great if the funnel or jet allows or even encourages the water to form a characteristic flow pattern known as a vortex. This vortex pattern itself has a tendency, quite separate from the jet-effect, to increase the velocity of the water, to decrease its temperature and to augment the water's density.

The second innovation proposed by Schauberger is a revolutionary design of the turbine, obtaining rotation at very high speeds and at the same time avoiding the usual difficulties of cavitation found in normal high speed turbine designs. In fact Schauberger's turbine wheel is of conical shape, with 'ribs' spiralling down the surface of the cone in a corkscrew pattern, and it is located in the center of the jet of water. The corkscrew turbine wheel parts the flow of water, takes up the water's dynamic energy and lets the flow continue without major disruption. Turbines of current design "hack" the water into thousands of destructive counter flows and cross vortices, thus wasting much of the available energy and causing the common problem of cavitation, a super fast corrosion and destruction of turbine blade material.

Here is the description of this new type of turbine as given in Schauberger's patent number 117 749:

"The subject of the invention is a hydropower machine, which utilizes the living energy of a jet of water for the purpose of power generation.

According to the invention, the turbine wheel is a cone with corkscrew-like blades. The cone is aligned with its axis in the direction of the axis of the jet. In this way the jet of water is split and diverted out of its course and thus gives its whole living energy to the spinning cone in a way that, providing the lenght of the cone and the width of its base are in a correct relation to each other and provided the blades are set at the correct angle, these parameters depending on the speed of the water jet, the water will flow out of the machine without agitation.

The illustration is an approximate schematic representation of the invention.

The spinning cone, which is aligned with its axis (1) in the direction of the water jet leaving the jet pipe (2), is made up of blades (3) in the form of a corkscrew.

The ends (4) of these blades (3) are bent somewhat upwards against the direction of the arriving water jet in order to cause a diversion of the jet and to transfer as much as possible of the living energy of the jet to the spinning cone.

On the inside of the jet pipe (2) there are screw-like ribs (5) promoting a spin, which according to actual observations increase the speed of the water jet and the efficiency of the machine.

PATENT CLAIMS:

  • A jet turbine, distinguished by the fact that in the path of the water jet and aligned with its axis so as to split the jet, there is a turbine wheel in the form of a cone, the surface of which is formed of corkscrew-like blades.
  • A jet turbine according to claim 1, distinguished by a jet pipe (2) with ribs (5) slanted in the direction of spin of the turbine wheel."

This patent was applied for in 1926 and granted in 1930. It seems that Schauberger actually used a small turbine of this design in a stream of water near the forest wardens' building during those years, to generate electricity, but no reliable records are available. (2)

Herbrand

Another instance of the use of the dynamic powers of flowing water has been documented by Ludwig Herbrand, a German engineer who as a student in the mid 1930's was called to evaluate and calculate the parameters of some generators and exciter units that had recently been installed in the Rheinfelden power station, as well as to design electrical overload protection and relevant switching mechanisms for these generators. He was also required to compare the generators with those of another power station that had been described in an article of a specialized magazine.

Much to the dismay of the then young and inquisitive engineering student, it seemed that the generators under examination were supplying more electrical energy than they should have, according to accepted theory. One of the generators of the Rheinfelden power plant, with 50 cubic meters of water per second and an altitude differential of only one meter supplied just as much power as a generator in near Ryburg-Schwörstadt, which had a capacity of 250 cubic meters of water per second and an altitude differential from head waters to turbine of 12 meters! (3)

That fact was confirmed by prof. Finzi, the designer of the turbines and generators, saying to young Herbrand:

"Do not worry about this. It is correct. The generator has been working without problems for some time now. Make the calculations backwards and you will see for yourself. We are electrical engineers. Why, those other problems are not ours to solve, we leave them to the water people. We have repeated our measurements and the generator's yield of power is exactly as specified. The only thing is - no one knows about this." (4)

Herbrand was soon drafted into the army and World War II did not allow him to pursue the matter further. Only much later, in the 1970s and 1980s, Herbrand came back to the calculations made for his engineering exams and tried - so far without success - to interest industry and government in this different and more efficient use of hydropower.

Technical facts

I shall attempt to delineate here the technical facts, using calculations that are based on accepted formulas and physical considerations confirmed by actual experiment, to show that with a different approach to hydropower engineering, we could obtain significantly more electrical power than is being extracted from hydro resources today, with simpler machinery and less expenditure, as well as less disturbance to the environment.

As mentioned above, current hydropower engineering works with water pressure, obtained as a result of the altitude differential between head waters and location of the turbine. This pressure, when released through the turbine, results in a momentary acceleration of the water and thus in a certain velocity of the water jet. This velocity is calculated with the formula

v = Sqrt 2 . g . h v being the velocity, g the gravitational acceleration of the earth (9.81 m/sec2) and h the altitude differential measured in meters.

Example: An altitude of 12 m results in a velocity of Sqrt 2 . 9.81 . 12 = 15.3 m/sec.

The progression of velocity in relation to altitude differential is shown in the following table.

head in meters 12 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
                     
velocity in m/sec 15.3 21.7 26.6 30.7 34.3 37.6 40.6 43.4 46 48.5
                     
                     
head in meters 132 144 156 168 180 192 204 216 228 240
                     
velocity in m/sec 50.9 53.1 55.3 57.4 59.4 61.4 63.3 65.1 66.9 68.6
These values are rendered graphically below.


We see that the curve of velocity at first increases more steeply and then tends to flatten with higher altitude differentials.

Let us now examine the energy output in kilowatt with increasing altitude differential.


The increase of energy output is linear, as shown in the graphic above.

Calculation

The electrical energy that can be obtained from water is calculated on the basis of the velocity of flow and the mass of the water, i.e. magnitude of flow measured in cubic meters per second, according to the formula

E kin = m/2 . v 2 (kw)

An example, assuming a velocity of 25 m/sec and a mass of 5 cubic meters per second:

Who was Viktor Schauberger?

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by Morten Ovesen, the Malmö group.

 http://www.newphys.se/fnysik/2_1/schauberger/

 

Viktor Schauberger around 40 years old.
Viktor Schauberger around 40 years old.

 

 

A brief biography could be like this: Viktor Schauberger was an Austrian forester who was active during the first half of the 19:th century. He had a huge beard and a friendly laughter, this he combined with an uncompromising belief in himself and his ideas. He was obstinate in combination with a choleric temper. He was a good drawer and probably a skilled craftsman. Even if Viktor was not schooled the academic way he had a deep knowledge in biology, physics and chemistry. His sense and understanding on how water flows in the nature was exceptional. From his observations he formulated his new hydrodynamic basic theory. His friends and opponents described him as highly intelligent and with this intellectual sharpness he made a deep cut in his (and ours) physical paradigm.

Original Repulsine

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23 august 2005

Ruud Rouleaux wrote:

Best way is to travel a littebit further to Austria and visit the PKS, in Bad Ischl. They have "open door" days every Wednesday. All the repulsine models were shipped into the US, during the trip of Walter and Viktor Schauberger into the USA.

 

esaruoho wrote:

erm.. what of this, then?

PKS seminars summary. doc (08-09 june2002) claimed this:

"...Richard Feierabend (RF) Investigation of German UFO project and discovery of VS material in USA RF investigated the WW2 German ”Flying Saucer Project”. One name that cropped up frequently was Viktor Schauberger. Discovered that Karl Gerchsheimer. Robert Donner and Norman Dodd had brought VS & WS (Walter Schauberger – son) to USA in 1958, with several crates of papers and prototype models, to develop practical applications of implosion technology. VS & WS returned home empty handed and had to leave all prototypes, drawings & papers behind after VS was pressured into signing a document which was not fully translated. RF made contact with Gerchsheimer, and shortly before Gerchsheimer’s death, visited him and, with KG’s permission, removed all the prototypes, models & papers he could find, including a repulsine. He still doesn’t know if he got all the stuff. RF contacted the Schauberger family to inform them that he had obtained most (if not all) of the material VS and WS were forced to leave behind in Texas in 1958. RF has been cataloging all the documents and prototypes and showed slides of much of the material he gathered and documented. RF is still slowly returning the materials to the Schauberger archives at PKS...".

Klimator - Stewart Mackenzie

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From: "Curt Hallberg" <curt.hallberg@...>
Date: Tue Aug 23, 2005  12:35 pm
Subject: SV: [viktorschaubergergroup] Curt -> Klimator

Hi Stewart!

OK, I will TRY to answer your questions below! Now, I some cases we simply do not have the correct information. Then we must use our technical skill and imagination. An other thing we must do is to learn to think how Viktor Schauberger think. First read the litterature, doing this try to remember the most basic things about Implosion. Then maybe the most important: DO SOMETHING PRACTICAL!! Just start to play with water make spirals, or look into the nature in water falls etc. But DO something practical!!!

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